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Showing posts with label Laramie Wyoming. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Laramie Wyoming. Show all posts
Saturday, October 7, 2023
Towns and Nature: Laramie, WY: UP Depot, Roundhouse and Water Tower
Towns and Nature: Laramie, WY: UP Depot, Roundhouse and Water Tower: Depot: ( Satellite , 436 photos) Roundhouses: ( Satellite , the roundhouses were south and southeast of the preserved smokestack) Rick Shill...
Tuesday, February 1, 2022
Lex Anteinternet: Lincoln Highway Redux?
Lex Anteinternet: Lincoln Highway Redux?:
Of course, by that time the Union Pacific was also progressing through the area, and that would soon render the Overland Trail obsolete. While not on an identical path the Overland Trail and the Union Pacific approximated each others routes and, very shortly, troops would be able to travel by rail.
As that occured, it would also be the case that guarding the railroad would become a more important function for the Army, and forts soon came to be placed on it.
Lincoln Highway Redux?
Gen. Luke Reiner[1] head of the Wyoming Department of Transportation, has stated that WYDOT is proposing to reroute Interstate 80 along the path of Wyoming Highway 30.
Eh?
Okay, this is the stretch between Laramie and Rawlins, which is notoriously bad during bad weather. For those not familiar with I80 in that area, or Highway 30 between Laramie and Rawlins, observe below:
WYDOT Public use map.
For those who are historically minded, you may be thinking that Highway 30, in that area, looks a bit familiar.
That's because that is where the "interstate", or protointerstate if you will, was prior to Interstate 80 being build.
Witness:
Gen. Reiner notes, in his statements to the Cowboy State Daily, that
“If you look at a map, you’ll see that the old highway, Highway 30, goes further to the north, and then sort of comes down from the north into I-80. Rumor has it that when they went to build I-80, that the initial route followed the route of Highway 30. And somebody made the decision, ‘No, we’re going to move closer to these very beautiful mountains,’ to which the locals said, ‘Bad idea,’ based on weather. And it has proved to be true.”
I don't know if its a rumor, and I don't know if they had beauty in mind. I've heard the same thing about locals warning those building the highway not to get to close to the mountains, only to be disregarded.
Highway 30 followed the route of the Union Pacific, and except in this stretch still largey does. The Interstate, however, followed a cutoff route of the Overland Trail. Taht's signficantin that the portion of the Overland Trail that it followed turned out to be an unpopular one, and the Army, which garrisoned a post at the base of Elk Mountain, eventually abaonded it.
We've writtein about that location here:
Sunday, August 2, 2020
Ft. Halleck, sort of. Near Elk Mountain Wyoming
Where Ft. Halleck was, from a great distance.
This set of photographs attempts to record something from a very great distance, and with the improper lenses. I really should have known better, quite frankly, and forgot to bring the lense that would have been ideal. None the less, looking straight up the center of this photograph, you'll see where Ft. Halleck once was.
The post was located at the base of Elk Mountain on the Overland Trail, that "shortcut" alternative to the Oregon Trail that shaved miles, at the expense of convenience and risk. Ft. Halleck was built in 1862 to reduce the risk. Whomever located the post must have done so in the summer, as placing a post on this location would seem, almost by definition, to express a degree of ignorance as to what the winters here are like.
The area to the northeast of where Ft. Halleck once was.
The fort was only occupied until 1866, although it was a major post during that time. Ft. Sanders, outside the present city of Laramie, made the unnecessary and to add to that, Sanders was in a more livable
Of course, by that time the Union Pacific was also progressing through the area, and that would soon render the Overland Trail obsolete. While not on an identical path the Overland Trail and the Union Pacific approximated each others routes and, very shortly, troops would be able to travel by rail.
As that occured, it would also be the case that guarding the railroad would become a more important function for the Army, and forts soon came to be placed on it.
Elk Mountain
And, therefore, Ft. Halleck was abandoned.
Whatever the reason for locating Interstate 80 there, and I suspect it had more to do with bypassing a bunch of country, making the road shorter, and the like, it was a poor choice indeed. The weather in that area is horrific during the winter. Perhaps the irony of that is that this stretch of the National Defense Highway system would have had to end up being avoided, quite frequently, if we'd really needed it if the Soviets had attacked us in the winter.
Gen. Reiner, who really doesn't expect this to occur, has noted in favor of it:
Our suggestion to the federal government is to say, ‘If you want to do something for the nation’s commerce along I-80, reroute it. Follow Highway 30 — it’s about 100 miles of new interstate, the estimated cost would be about $6 billion. So, it’s not cheap, but our estimate is that it would dramatically reduce the number of days the interstate’s closed, because that’s the section that that kills us.
It doesn't just "kill" us in a budgetary fashion. It kills a lot of people too. Anyone who has litigated in Wyoming has dealt with I80 highway fatalities in this section. That makes the $6,000,000,000 investment worthwhile in my mind.
And of course taking the more southerly route doesn't just kill people, as crass as that is to say, it helped kill the towns of Rock River and Medicine Bow, two of the five towns on that stretch of Highway 30 that were once pretty bustling Lincoln Highway towns.[1] Highway 30 runs rough through them.
And of note, FWIW, Highway 30 between Bosler and Rock River
Now, I know that a new Interstate 80 wouldn't go right through Rock River and Medicine Bow, but past them, like Highway 30 does to Hanna, but some people would in fact pull off. It's inevitable.
It's a good idea.
Not as good of idea as electrifying the railroad and restoring train travel, but still a good idea.
It won't happen, however. Not even though there's still relatively little between Laramie and Rawlins, and it won't cause any real towns to dry up and blow away. Not even though it would save lives and ultimately thousands of lost travel dollars. And not even though the current administration is spending infrastructure money like crazy.
Footnotes:
1. Before he was head of WYDOT, Reiner was the commanding officer of the Wyoming Army National Guard.
When I was a National Guardsmen he was a lieutenant, and his first assignment was to my Liaison section. I knew him at that time. He's an accountant by training, and he was in fact an accountant at the time. His parents were Lutheran missionaries in Namibia, where he had partially grown up.
2. The towns are Bosler, Rock River, Medicine Bow, and Hanna.
Wednesday, May 22, 2019
Union Pacific No. 535, Laramie Wyoming.
Union Pacific No. 535 is a 1903 vintage Baldwin steam engine that's on display in Laramie, next to the Union Pacific's Laramie depot. People who have long associations with Laramie or who lived in the city prior to February 2011 will recall the engine being in LaBonte Park, where it was part of a nicely maintained display.
In 2011 this engine was moved to its current location at Railroad Heritage Park, the park that surrounds the Union Pacific depot. At some point following my residence in Laramie during most of the 1980s, this engine fell into a fairly poor looking state and its been vandalized with graffiti.
535 is a small steam engine that was built as a coal burning engine and then converted in its later years to oil, as many steam engines were. In its current location its mocked up with a retired Union Pacific wedge snowplow.
Oddly the railroad yard facing side of 535 is in much poorer appearance than the street side. Hopefully the condition of this display is addressed at some point in the near future.
Sunday, May 19, 2019
Union Pacific 4014 "Big Boy" and 844, Laramie Wyoming, May 17, 2019
The Union Pacific 4014 is one of the twenty five legendary "Big Boy" locomotives built by the American Locomotive Company for the Union Pacific between 1941 and 1944. They were the largest steam engines ever built. 4014 is one of 4884-1 class engines, that being the first class, the second being the 4884-2 class. Only eight of the twenty five Big Boys remain and only this one, 4014, built in 1941, is in running condition.
It wasn't always. Up until this year, none of the Big Boys, retired in 1959, were operational. 4014 in fact had been donated by the Union Pacific to a museum upon its retirement. But the UP reacquired the giant engine a few years ago and rebuilt it, and has returned it to excursion service. Its first run in that role took place last week on a trip to Utah, and we photographed here in the Union Pacific rail yard in Laramie where it was on a day off before its anticipated return to its home in Cheyenne which will take place today, May 19, 2019.
The massive articulated train is truly a legend.
The 4014 was built as a coal fired train, with the difficult hilly terrain of the Union Pacific in Wyoming in mind. The conversion, however, restores to steam service, but as a fuel oil burning engine. Indeed, that type of conversion was common for steam engines in their later years.
The 4014 is a four cylinder engine that was designed to have a stable speed of up to 80 mph, although it was most efficient at 35 mph. It was designed for freight service.
The Big Boy was traveling with two other engines in its train, one being the Union Pacific 844, and the other being a diesel engine. I'm not certain why the 844 was part of the train, but the diesel engine was likely in it in case something broke down. Nothing did, and the maiden run of the restored locomotive was a success.
The 844 is a Northern type engine built in 1944. The FEF-3 class engine was one of ten that were built by the American Locomotive Company. While used for everything, the FEF series were designed for high speed passenger operations and were designed to run as fast as 120 mph.
The 844 was in service all the way until 1960. During its final years it was a fast freight locomotive. 844 never left service and after being rebuilt in 1960 it went into excursion service for the Union Pacific.
On its maiden run, the UP had a variety of class late rail cars pulled by the train, each of which is named.
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